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		<title>By: Joseph Pietro Riolo</title>
		<link>http://www.deafhooddiscourses.com/?p=35#comment-534</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Pietro Riolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This comment is especially for the person identified by &quot;native asl/ci parent and child&quot;.

I read some of the comments over at http://aslci.blogspot.com/ in response to your comment that quoted a portion of my post.  I want to let you know that I do acknowledge and respect their views and thoughts.  While I wish to continue the dialogue, I don&#039;t think that anything more from me will be beneficial for you and the people who shared their thoughts.  Please don’t misinterpret my silence as rejection of dialogue.  I am still open to dialogue but perhaps, this is not a good time for it.  (&quot;A time to be silent, a time to discuss.&quot;)  Maybe, in the future, we can have dialogue.  Maybe not.

Meanwhile, live and let live.

Joseph Pietro Riolo
josephpietrojeungriolo@gmail.com

Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this post in the public domain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comment is especially for the person identified by &#8220;native asl/ci parent and child&#8221;.</p>
<p>I read some of the comments over at <a href="http://aslci.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://aslci.blogspot.com/</a> in response to your comment that quoted a portion of my post.  I want to let you know that I do acknowledge and respect their views and thoughts.  While I wish to continue the dialogue, I don&#8217;t think that anything more from me will be beneficial for you and the people who shared their thoughts.  Please don’t misinterpret my silence as rejection of dialogue.  I am still open to dialogue but perhaps, this is not a good time for it.  (&#8220;A time to be silent, a time to discuss.&#8221;)  Maybe, in the future, we can have dialogue.  Maybe not.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, live and let live.</p>
<p>Joseph Pietro Riolo<br />
<a href="mailto:josephpietrojeungriolo@gmail.com">josephpietrojeungriolo@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this post in the public domain.</p>
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		<title>By: ElephantInTheRoom</title>
		<link>http://www.deafhooddiscourses.com/?p=35#comment-476</link>
		<dc:creator>ElephantInTheRoom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pardon my Christian perspective -- I love the way you ended this message..  I have just one thing to add:

AG Bell is laughing at us, yes, but he is burning in hell at the same time.  Maybe we can feel comforted that he gets a bit of &quot;relaxation&quot; from constant torment and flames, by laughing at the Deaf Community.

Poor AGB -- Roasting, Toasting, Broiling, Frying, Barbecue...  (but I don&#039;t want to eat that garbage!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pardon my Christian perspective &#8212; I love the way you ended this message..  I have just one thing to add:</p>
<p>AG Bell is laughing at us, yes, but he is burning in hell at the same time.  Maybe we can feel comforted that he gets a bit of &#8220;relaxation&#8221; from constant torment and flames, by laughing at the Deaf Community.</p>
<p>Poor AGB &#8212; Roasting, Toasting, Broiling, Frying, Barbecue&#8230;  (but I don&#8217;t want to eat that garbage!)</p>
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		<title>By: K.L.</title>
		<link>http://www.deafhooddiscourses.com/?p=35#comment-457</link>
		<dc:creator>K.L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Native asl/ci parent and child asked me to come over here and add my two cents.  I understand why some people dislike the cochlear implant, but I cannot agree with them.  The potential benefits for the individual child outweigh the impact to the Deaf Community.  As a parent, my responsibility is to my child, and ONLY to my child.  I need to give her as many tools as I can so she can navigate in this world as easily as possible.  If she can have hearing AND sign, then that benefits her.

It does me no good to debate this with people.  If they want to hear my views, fine.  If they want to ask questions, fine.  If they want to dialog, fine.  If they want to tell me why I am wrong, I will leave.  I don&#039;t have time for that.  I have no interest in arguing.  I obviously won&#039;t change my mind, and I have no great interest in trying to change other people&#039;s minds.  As far as I&#039;m concerned, it makes no difference if the other person is against implants in general, or against the people who have them.  I will shield my child from them.  The potential for emotional damage is just too great for her.  She will have plenty of time when she grows up to deal with that negativism.  Not now.

So if you want to engage me in conversation about the implant, don&#039;t start by telling me how much you dislike it.  Even if you don&#039;t reject the person, it will come across that way.  A good example would be Aiden Mack.  I actually have a great deal of respect and admiration for her and what she has accomplished.  However, even though I know she does not dislike people with implants, I will not allow my child around her for fear that her beliefs will leak out and confuse my child.  I simply choose not to socialize with people who dislike my choices and how I raise my child.  They have a complete right to their beliefs, but I don&#039;t need to be subjected to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Native asl/ci parent and child asked me to come over here and add my two cents.  I understand why some people dislike the cochlear implant, but I cannot agree with them.  The potential benefits for the individual child outweigh the impact to the Deaf Community.  As a parent, my responsibility is to my child, and ONLY to my child.  I need to give her as many tools as I can so she can navigate in this world as easily as possible.  If she can have hearing AND sign, then that benefits her.</p>
<p>It does me no good to debate this with people.  If they want to hear my views, fine.  If they want to ask questions, fine.  If they want to dialog, fine.  If they want to tell me why I am wrong, I will leave.  I don&#8217;t have time for that.  I have no interest in arguing.  I obviously won&#8217;t change my mind, and I have no great interest in trying to change other people&#8217;s minds.  As far as I&#8217;m concerned, it makes no difference if the other person is against implants in general, or against the people who have them.  I will shield my child from them.  The potential for emotional damage is just too great for her.  She will have plenty of time when she grows up to deal with that negativism.  Not now.</p>
<p>So if you want to engage me in conversation about the implant, don&#8217;t start by telling me how much you dislike it.  Even if you don&#8217;t reject the person, it will come across that way.  A good example would be Aiden Mack.  I actually have a great deal of respect and admiration for her and what she has accomplished.  However, even though I know she does not dislike people with implants, I will not allow my child around her for fear that her beliefs will leak out and confuse my child.  I simply choose not to socialize with people who dislike my choices and how I raise my child.  They have a complete right to their beliefs, but I don&#8217;t need to be subjected to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Mayes</title>
		<link>http://www.deafhooddiscourses.com/?p=35#comment-440</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Mayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, just making sure... so you were commenting to another commenter.

Deafhood is just a personal journey for each of us and we approach it differently.  We agree or disagree, comparing, judging, etc...  human nature.  I have my own experiences which define how I think, same as your own experiences defining your thinking process.  Right or wrong?  Nope.

By the way, Candy is very smart... she knows what is she talking about.

Okay, have a good week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, just making sure&#8230; so you were commenting to another commenter.</p>
<p>Deafhood is just a personal journey for each of us and we approach it differently.  We agree or disagree, comparing, judging, etc&#8230;  human nature.  I have my own experiences which define how I think, same as your own experiences defining your thinking process.  Right or wrong?  Nope.</p>
<p>By the way, Candy is very smart&#8230; she knows what is she talking about.</p>
<p>Okay, have a good week.</p>
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		<title>By: Betty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we are agreed with you, Similar in England, BDA in England not clear structure , still control hearing people are colonism with Deaf People are more criticism to  Deaf People. 

I have been experience spoiled to Favoritism with other Deaf lead.

thank you very much 

Betty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we are agreed with you, Similar in England, BDA in England not clear structure , still control hearing people are colonism with Deaf People are more criticism to  Deaf People. </p>
<p>I have been experience spoiled to Favoritism with other Deaf lead.</p>
<p>thank you very much </p>
<p>Betty</p>
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		<title>By: Candy</title>
		<link>http://www.deafhooddiscourses.com/?p=35#comment-438</link>
		<dc:creator>Candy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elena, I have had lots of discussions with several close friends who happen to be black.  Trust me, that view is a cop out.  Look at what Obama is saying to black people in the news today.  He&#039;s saying take responsibility for your actions.  Your view is based on DH which I do not see in the same light as you do.   

I&#039;m not racist.  Never have been.  And never will be.  But, I can&#039;t change the way you think about me, which is ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elena, I have had lots of discussions with several close friends who happen to be black.  Trust me, that view is a cop out.  Look at what Obama is saying to black people in the news today.  He&#8217;s saying take responsibility for your actions.  Your view is based on DH which I do not see in the same light as you do.   </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not racist.  Never have been.  And never will be.  But, I can&#8217;t change the way you think about me, which is ok.</p>
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		<title>By: native asl/ci parent and child</title>
		<link>http://www.deafhooddiscourses.com/?p=35#comment-435</link>
		<dc:creator>native asl/ci parent and child</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J Pietro-Riolo and DonG, let me answer to your comments and questions later. I&#039;d like to give the ASL/CI Community the opportunity to respond.  

DonG, I look forwad to yor vlog about why you are into Deafhood.  I genuinely want to understand.  

I have a bumper sticker on my car that says  C O E X I S T.  I must practice what I preach. 

Adios!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J Pietro-Riolo and DonG, let me answer to your comments and questions later. I&#8217;d like to give the ASL/CI Community the opportunity to respond.  </p>
<p>DonG, I look forwad to yor vlog about why you are into Deafhood.  I genuinely want to understand.  </p>
<p>I have a bumper sticker on my car that says  C O E X I S T.  I must practice what I preach. </p>
<p>Adios!</p>
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		<title>By: DrDonG</title>
		<link>http://www.deafhooddiscourses.com/?p=35#comment-432</link>
		<dc:creator>DrDonG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mishka,

No, asking for transparency is not horizontal violence.  Like I think Drolz said, if you are questioning their procedures or want to make constructive suggestions for how they could be improved, that is one thing.  

But, name-calling, slurs, posting of documents making people seem bad (and not pointing out that one&#039;s self was engaging in similar behavior), and just the general tone of what&#039;s been all over the blogs in the comments definitely is.  

Do you see what I&#039;m saying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mishka,</p>
<p>No, asking for transparency is not horizontal violence.  Like I think Drolz said, if you are questioning their procedures or want to make constructive suggestions for how they could be improved, that is one thing.  </p>
<p>But, name-calling, slurs, posting of documents making people seem bad (and not pointing out that one&#8217;s self was engaging in similar behavior), and just the general tone of what&#8217;s been all over the blogs in the comments definitely is.  </p>
<p>Do you see what I&#8217;m saying?</p>
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		<title>By: Mishkazena</title>
		<link>http://www.deafhooddiscourses.com/?p=35#comment-430</link>
		<dc:creator>Mishkazena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curious here. Do you see me asking DBC to become more transparency a form of horizontal violence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curious here. Do you see me asking DBC to become more transparency a form of horizontal violence?</p>
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		<title>By: DrDonG</title>
		<link>http://www.deafhooddiscourses.com/?p=35#comment-428</link>
		<dc:creator>DrDonG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph P.R. --

You actually do have a good point.  Word choices can and do blind people to the ideas behind what people are trying to say.  I&#039;d be interested in NACIP&amp;C&#039;s response -- it could be helpful to work through our perceptual differences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph P.R. &#8211;</p>
<p>You actually do have a good point.  Word choices can and do blind people to the ideas behind what people are trying to say.  I&#8217;d be interested in NACIP&#038;C&#8217;s response &#8212; it could be helpful to work through our perceptual differences.</p>
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