Why we need to be “on the same page”
Now that the DBC conference is over, this vlog by Jack Barr (FDR and Obama) illustrates why it is important for all of us to “be on the same page” when we have the opportunity to inform and educate others about what Deaf people want and need.
MM said,
June 30, 2008 @ 3:52 am
Don’t know about ‘same page, a lot still aren’t in the same book.
Richard Roehm said,
June 30, 2008 @ 5:54 am
Getting all of us on the same page will be easily accomplished if bullying in the deaf communities was eradicated.
Karen Mayes said,
June 30, 2008 @ 6:17 am
I **won’t** mind on being on the same page IF DBC ceased being in an offensive mode against AGBell and CIs and started concentrating on its mission statement. But so far… *shrug*
DrDonG said,
June 30, 2008 @ 7:34 am
Karen,
I’m not talking about a DBC thing only — there are a lot of issues common to us all, DBC or no DBC.
Richard,
Is it “bullying”, or is it speaking out? Nothing wrong with speaking out. It seems like people are attributing “speaking out” to “bullying” only when it is against their views.
MM,
Unfortunately, it looks like you’re right. So how do we get everybody to go to the library and check out the same book (figuratively speaking)?
MM said,
June 30, 2008 @ 8:21 am
I think someone has to make the move forward, whether it is A G Bell or the Deaf sector someone has to make a start, confrontation will not solve anything. We have the same issue here with Deaf versus the RNID, no-one is attempting to even have dialogue, just campaigning against. Yopu have to wonder if some just enjoy the fight.
Karen Mayes said,
June 30, 2008 @ 8:47 am
DrDon, I noticed that you had a tendancy to talk down to people… I comment on how I feel, and you need to acknowledge on how I feel as well as other people.
I know a lot more than you think.
I won’t bother with you anymore.
DrDonG said,
June 30, 2008 @ 10:39 am
Karen,
I’m not trying to talk down to you or anyone. I saw your comment, I tried to clarify my position and my point. If that’s “talking down”, then I don’t know what we all are doing here on DeafRead and all these other v/blogs.
Benno said,
June 30, 2008 @ 12:11 pm
I completely agree with you, DonG. I was really surprised that that woman told Obama she wanted more Art. What were she thinking?
Karen:
What makes you think DonG is looking down on people? I don’t have that feeling. What he meant with “on the same page” is that we deaf people should know what to say what we want when someone asks us. We shouldn’t say “Art” or other insignificant things (surely Art is important but there are other far imperative things than Art). But instead we should say that we need more CC, more rights, etc
AG Bell has been offensive against DBC as well; deaf people and people at AG Bell has tendency to look down on deaf people as well.
Benno said,
June 30, 2008 @ 12:22 pm
Revision:
AG Bell has been offensive against DBC as well; people at AG Bell have tendency to look down on deaf people.
DT said,
June 30, 2008 @ 1:11 pm
THAT book hasn’t been written yet; we are just spinning our wheels with all this fussin’ & fightin’ Remember the Beatles? Hahaha
MMom said,
July 1, 2008 @ 11:40 am
My husband and I took a lot of time to learn about all our options. We learned to sign, learned about auditory methods, etc. In the end we chose cued speech. We expected everyone would hate us for that. (AG Bell is fine with it and even had several sessions on it.) What about DBC? We were joking that we would have a 2 person protest at their conference. “LET ALL DEAF CHILDREN CUE!”
Seriously though, every child is different. To prescribe one answer for everyone is just wrong. Everyone should work together to educate parents on ALL their options and help them make an educational choice about what’s best for their child.
MM said,
July 2, 2008 @ 10:21 am
There are still some who will refuse to believe a choice has been made taking all options into account, if, it goes against ASL or goes against oralism. It is this entrenched stance that causes the problem, while they plead for this mode or that mode to be included, what they are really saying is ONLY. It is hard to ID these intransigents because they hide behind the rights and access argument.
DR Hocokan said,
July 5, 2008 @ 5:06 am
In order for us to be on the same page we need to retreat from linear thinking mode and jump into circular thinking mode. I explained this in my blog known as Hocokan, the Center.
Also important for us to remember importance of consensus, not majority rule.
Oftentimes we rule our movement or organization based on majority rule instead of seeking consensus approval. Jack Barr did not promote circular thinking nor did he promote consensus approval before, during or after DBC conference. End result? Bad media publicity. DBC was seen as the bad wolf inside a sheep outfit when it tried to promote bilingualism but actually promoted Deafhood’s hate for Oralism & CI instead. Simply sad. However the hope is not lost. We have the right to demand consensus approval and retrain everybody to abandon their linear thoughts and exercise circular thoughts.
Thanks for your post.
anna s said,
July 6, 2008 @ 10:50 pm
Guess I am playing catch up on your vlogs as you couldtell by my string of comments.
Your message is straightforward! We need to be more aware and well prepared to state our needs whenever a gold opportunity comes our way.
Deaf, deaf, HI, whatever…. we have common needs….. for the most part. Captionng is one.
Arts? Oh brother.